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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you have chickens? 

Seriously. The food change was frustrating at first and probably made worse for you living in tiny town. Karen put it to me like this: &quot;Some people choose to spend their money on clothes, going out, entertainment. We have chosen to spend our money on food.&quot;

Remember that you are one person. That you are one person consciously trying to do the right thing and that&#039;s making the few changes you can make right now in this moment under your current living conditions. Just being aware of the problem is the first step. Kind of like, just setting out the yoga mat sets the intention to do the practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you have chickens? </p>
<p>Seriously. The food change was frustrating at first and probably made worse for you living in tiny town. Karen put it to me like this: &#8220;Some people choose to spend their money on clothes, going out, entertainment. We have chosen to spend our money on food.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember that you are one person. That you are one person consciously trying to do the right thing and that&#8217;s making the few changes you can make right now in this moment under your current living conditions. Just being aware of the problem is the first step. Kind of like, just setting out the yoga mat sets the intention to do the practice.</p>
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		<title>By: potatobiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>potatobiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weirdly, there are many more local food options in the city than out here. Every now and then a farmers market will pop up and then it disappears. And sometimes there&#039;s a guy on the side of the road much further down 81 than I ever go, but that&#039;s not a consistent thing and when it&#039;s primarily tomatoes, I think I could grow that! Even though I don&#039;t. *sigh* A huge part of the problem is how expensive those markets are. They SHOULD be; we are just used to the artificially lowered prices of factory farmed food.

I already buy the $4.00 eggs anyway, partly because if it costs that much more then something slightly better had to be done to produce them, they look very lovely on the inside, and it keeps me from buying them often. 

I have watched Food Inc. I recommended it for the library, so now we have it. I&#039;m in control of the displays, maybe I will do a display with those kinds of items on it soon. I can say truly I&#039;ve seen more people check out vegetarian cookbooks in the past year or two than I ever did before, so that feels pretty good! 

Right now, expensive IS impossible for me. But let&#039;s admit it. My standards are high, so i still do far more than anyone I know. ME eating poorly is still better than 95% of the entire population of Oklahoma. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weirdly, there are many more local food options in the city than out here. Every now and then a farmers market will pop up and then it disappears. And sometimes there&#8217;s a guy on the side of the road much further down 81 than I ever go, but that&#8217;s not a consistent thing and when it&#8217;s primarily tomatoes, I think I could grow that! Even though I don&#8217;t. *sigh* A huge part of the problem is how expensive those markets are. They SHOULD be; we are just used to the artificially lowered prices of factory farmed food.</p>
<p>I already buy the $4.00 eggs anyway, partly because if it costs that much more then something slightly better had to be done to produce them, they look very lovely on the inside, and it keeps me from buying them often. </p>
<p>I have watched Food Inc. I recommended it for the library, so now we have it. I&#8217;m in control of the displays, maybe I will do a display with those kinds of items on it soon. I can say truly I&#8217;ve seen more people check out vegetarian cookbooks in the past year or two than I ever did before, so that feels pretty good! </p>
<p>Right now, expensive IS impossible for me. But let&#8217;s admit it. My standards are high, so i still do far more than anyone I know. ME eating poorly is still better than 95% of the entire population of Oklahoma. <img src='http://www.dorkeriffic.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much we could talk about here, but we should wait until we can actually sit down somewhere and have a few drinks. 

There is local food. The eggs we get at the farmer&#039;s market are great, they have yolks that are so orangish-yellow sometimes, the first time you see one like that, you think &quot;What did they do to these eggs?&quot;. Then it hits you. This is the way an egg is supposed to look; not what you&#039;ve been eating all your life. But eggs at the store are $1.50 or less a dozen, and $4.00 at the farmer&#039;s market. I bought bacon there once, and gave it to Chris and Traci because they didn&#039;t believe me that it tasted different than bacon you buy at the store. It&#039;s ridiculously noticeable. They were shocked. And most people will never know that difference because they&#039;re not going to spend the money to find out. It&#039;s just easier for people to say there is no difference and not bother putting their beliefs to the test.

Industrial organic is better than conventional. It&#039;s better quality food (but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean always better tasting), but as far as the animals&#039; welfare goes, it&#039;s only slightly better and even then, the definitions of things like &quot;have access to open spaces&quot; is open to interpretation, that there really isn&#039;t any . It&#039;s weaselly. 

I think we have made a small dent in how many of our friends and family members eat. And I&#039;ll sit through  Food Inc. with anyone who&#039;s interested in learning more about their food. In fact, I&#039;m going to bring that DVD over for you when I see you at the Jens&#039;. 

It&#039;s expensive to eat well in the city, but not impossible. In smaller towns like Duncan, it&#039;s probably expensive and close to impossible.  I&#039;m going to bring you a froast, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much we could talk about here, but we should wait until we can actually sit down somewhere and have a few drinks. </p>
<p>There is local food. The eggs we get at the farmer&#8217;s market are great, they have yolks that are so orangish-yellow sometimes, the first time you see one like that, you think &#8220;What did they do to these eggs?&#8221;. Then it hits you. This is the way an egg is supposed to look; not what you&#8217;ve been eating all your life. But eggs at the store are $1.50 or less a dozen, and $4.00 at the farmer&#8217;s market. I bought bacon there once, and gave it to Chris and Traci because they didn&#8217;t believe me that it tasted different than bacon you buy at the store. It&#8217;s ridiculously noticeable. They were shocked. And most people will never know that difference because they&#8217;re not going to spend the money to find out. It&#8217;s just easier for people to say there is no difference and not bother putting their beliefs to the test.</p>
<p>Industrial organic is better than conventional. It&#8217;s better quality food (but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean always better tasting), but as far as the animals&#8217; welfare goes, it&#8217;s only slightly better and even then, the definitions of things like &#8220;have access to open spaces&#8221; is open to interpretation, that there really isn&#8217;t any . It&#8217;s weaselly. </p>
<p>I think we have made a small dent in how many of our friends and family members eat. And I&#8217;ll sit through  Food Inc. with anyone who&#8217;s interested in learning more about their food. In fact, I&#8217;m going to bring that DVD over for you when I see you at the Jens&#8217;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s expensive to eat well in the city, but not impossible. In smaller towns like Duncan, it&#8217;s probably expensive and close to impossible.  I&#8217;m going to bring you a froast, too.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a good video on meat: http://meat.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a good video on meat: <a href="http://meat.org" rel="nofollow">http://meat.org</a></p>
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